 Curcumin reduces acute pain and inflammation better than NSAID phenylbutazone (5)The anti-inflammatory activity of curcumin was evaluated in a group of patients who underwent surgery or suffered from trauma. A double-blind controlled-trial in which three groups received curcumin (400 mg/day), a placebo, or phenylbutazone (100 mg/day) for five consecutive days after surgery. Treatment with curcumin resulted in reduced inflammation more effectively than phenylbutazone. (5)Phenylbutazone is a powerful analgesic (painkiller) and an NSAID (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug). Unlike NSAIDS, which have dangerous side-effects and black-box warnings, curcumin is safe and has no side-effects, even at doses up to 8,000 mg per day. (10, 11)References:5. Satoskar R.R., et al. “Evaluation of anti-inflammatory property of curcumin in patients with post-operative inflammation,” Int. J. Clin. Pharmacol. Ther. Toxicol.: 24(12), 651-4, 1986. 10. Sarker, S.D., et al. “Bioactivity of Turmeric,” Turmeric: The genus Curcuma; Medicinal and aromatic plants–industrial profiles, edited by Ravindran, P.N., et al. Boca Raton, FL: CRC Press, 2007.
11. Cheng, A.L., et al. “Phase I clinical trial of curcumin, a chemoprotective agent, in patients with high-risk or pre-malignant lesions. Anti-cancer Res. 2001; July-Aug 21:2895-2900: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11712783?dopt=Abstract.
_______________________________________________________ A preliminary trial in people with rheumatoid arthritis found curcumin to be somewhat useful for reducing inflammation and symptoms such as pain and stiffness.8 A separate double-blind trial found that curcumin was superior to placebo or phenylbutazone (an NSAID) for alleviating post-surgical inflammation.9References: 8. Deodhar SD, Sethi R, Srimal RC. Preliminary studies on antirheumatic activity of curcumin (diferuloyl methane). Ind J Med Res 1980;71:632-4.
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Hi,
I am currently undertaking a study investigating the effectiveness of turmeric in treating the symptoms of osteoarthritis in horses for my undergrad dissertation. I was wondering if you could give me more details of this study? Is it published anywhere are you able to email me the full write up for it? Who wrote the study? etc in order to use it as a reference.
Thanks
Have two Arabians both 19 years old who may have laminitis. here is my dilemma. Spiderman our gelding has been on Animed, Nzymes and Tumeric since Dec of 2015, About a month ago both are showing signs of laminitis. Nova never had it before and she has weakness in her back legs as well. Spiderman, because of all the supplements he gets, should not have it back. I’m treating Spiderman with 2 tablespoons of tumeric , ground black peppercorns and evoo. Gave Nova Pributazone seemed to help for for a few days. Stopped that and started her on turmeric April 13.You have a lot of info on this site I’m glad I found it. Both horses eating and drinking, no poop problems,but my daughter and I are very frustrated. Do you have idea for us? Thanks!
When both horses or all horses are suspected of laminitis I would look to the environment and diet. We were sprayed with NALED spray for the Zika mosquitoes last September and 4 out of my 5 all went laminitic within 2 days. Some also got respiratory issues, another got MASSIVE hives all over his body and one has forever neurological issues, now, rendering her a pasture potato for the rest of her life. That was in addition to the laminitis. One is highly IR now and another has lost weight noticeably. They are all still in recovery and it is questionable as to whether or not they WILL recover fully. A friend of mine lost 6! of her horses and 2 dogs due to the farmer next door spraying his fields with round-up/Glyphosates. (continue reading below) … within a month’s time. She also lost all her bees.
The onslaught of toxic chemicals into our air, our water, our food and ESPECIALLY into the processed feeds, is deplorable! Processed feed and supplements are basically like feeding poison to the horses at this point. The crops (wheat, alfalfa, corn, beets, soy etc.) are mostly GMO and are grown in a cesspool of Glyphosate/Round Up. Then they are sprayed 2 days prior to harvest, again, with glyphosates. This basically is poisoning our own food as well as our animals’ food. This is why we’re seeing such an epidemic/pandemic even, of increase in diseases like Insulin Resistant (Diabetes Type 2), COPD, Auto-Immune diseases, obesity, etc. etc. Our horses (dogs, cats, etc) are not exempt from this especially when the sweepings of the floors are used to make the horse feed of grains/residue that is considered UNSAFE FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION. (FDA) …
So now that I’ve scared the bejeebers out of you … (and it should be damn scary to us ALL!) there ARE some things you can do to help counter-act the situation.
The first thing ** I ** would do would be to eliminate ALL PROCESSED food, supplements, etc. from the diet entirely. Then I would do a personal, tailored, diet for each horse as to his/her own, unique needs. I use homeopathy, herbs, essential oils, raw minerals and organic vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds as well as non-GMO/chemically treated Hay. I don’t use any chemicals on my pastures.
Yes, adding Turmeric and such (be sure its ORGANIC and non-GMO) is great! All the other supplements are things that *I* would stay away from but I understand how others feel they cannot eliminate those things.
Please contact me further if you’d like to learn more or would like a full consult.
Thank you for getting back to me so soon. I really appreciate the info.
You are very welcome. I hope some of the info is helpful to you. 🙂
Have you or anyone here used Turmeric to help horses with heaves. I have searched this site and the face book page but didn’t see anything, but there were so many to look through maybe I missed it. Thanks
I haven’t personally. I’m hoping someone else will pipe in for you, Kathy.
Thanks. How about an oil to help open up air ways?
doTERRA “Breathe” Essential Oil blend would help. Also, the herb “Broadleaf Plantain” … if you need help in finding the doTERRA, please simply go here: http://www.mydoterra.com/penzanceequine … and if you want to get it at 25% off retail price, give me a holler. I can help you with that.
Thanks
my horse has heaves I give spurlina with no improvement and now added MSM and it been some time now and no improvement . He don’t cough but his breathing noise can be a little loud I leave him outside about 12 to 14 hours a day . I soak his hay and wet down his grain. He is 23 years years old and he has arthritis , turamic (spelt wrong) he weight about 800 lbs would this help him
You might give it a try, Sue … you could also add the herb “Broadleaf Plantain” to your turmeric/feed. That has helped many, too. 🙂
Spirulina (Blue Green Algae) works very well for horses with heaves (and also allergies) it was very helpful to my 23 year old that developed heaves. I was able to manage him very well with it and also typical “housekeeping” items like wetting the hay to remove dust, etc.
I have an old pony with acute laminitis & possibly developing arthritis. She is currently on a dose of between one & one & a half sachets of bute a day. Would turmeric be beneficial to her laminitis? Can it be added to her diet while she is on bute and gradually reduce/remove the bute in time if the turmeric is effective? Or is it dangerous to give both at the same time?
I would, and have, used Turmeric instead of Bute for Laminitis with my own guy(s) and with clients’ horses as well with positive results. There are other factors, of course, that play into the recovery from laminitis that I am sure you are aware of. I’m not so sure that I would give both Bute AND Turmeric at the same time .. but perhaps substituting Turmeric for one administration of Bute would be a better solution. Do that for a couple of days then substitute in full.
What is the dose of Tumeric per body weight for horses? I’m a firm believer in daily use for myself. I have been in 3 serious car accidents, now “older” and experiencing the full effects of them.
Gee whiz — thought I answered this earlier this morning but it appears my post disappeared! *grin* … At any rate, I use the general rule of thumb for all herbs and standard horses, Linda … and that is from Hillary Page Self, founder of Hilton Herbs, of approx. 1 oz. of herb a day divided into 2 servings. I would (and do) the same with Turmeric. (Ponies and Minis would be less).
Looking for a natural remedy for Ulcers, using aloe juice right now with fair results anything else I can give her
Hi Laura! 🙂 The best I’ve found is feeding a handful of raw, shredded cabbage daily. Do you use Golden Paste? I also use Peppermint and Frankincense essential oils. I feed them right with meals or put Peppermint in the water. They can also be used topically with gentle massage. They’ll get into the horse’s system to help that way. There is the only one essential oil brand I will use as I am confident of its purity. Let me know if you’d like more info. I can help you get wholesale pricing on the oils. The cabbage — organic, of course, is the best. But do keep the oils in mind as well.
Another factor in healing ulcers is the diet. I’ve found over the years that feeding processed food can *cause* ulcers. So we can chat about that a bit, as well, if you’d like. 🙂
I would like to talk to you about using the oils. Deborah: 8184709117
Hi Deborah … what is the best way to contact you and when? I’d love to chat with you. 😀
I have never used cabbage, I have used turmeric with great success . I use young Living essential oils
Good info to know. Turmeric AND cabbage might be a very effective remedy as well. And I use doTERRA Essential Oils 😉
Hi, Gwen! I love this page! I have been taking turmeric/pepper every day for IBS, and it works wonders. It also cleared up the arthritis pain in my hands. I give it to my elderly greyhound who is partially paralyzed in one leg (shattered a lumbar disc while running in the back yard) and it seems to help his mobility a lot. Great to know it’s also good for horses!
I have a gelding who is a cribber with a history of hind gut ulcers. I will definitely be making the Golden Paste for him. I use DoTerra essential oils also, and keep the DigestZen capsules in my equine first aid kit in case of colic. How much peppermint and frankinscense do you use? Would DigestZen work for ulcers?
With any of the oils, Carrie, I use human adult doses. For ponies I use children’s and minis I’ll use infant sized doses. So, one to two drops for a horse — generally mixed with a tbsp of carrier oil (I like coconut oil or EVOO for this). The peppermint? I add one or two drops per 50 gallon barrel of water. That’s for the general herd. Digestzen would help with ulcers but also a full diet examination would be apropros … that, in itself, can help prevent colicky episodes and ulcers. For ulcers, my first “go-to” is raw cabbage … if the horse will eat it — a handful of fresh, raw, green or purple cabbage once or twice daily. That reaps amazing results!
If you’re at all interested in a full consult, please let me know. I am available … 😀
Thank you! I will try the cabbage, and add the peppermint in his water.
Keep us posted! 😀
My boy loves the cabbage! He’s been on it several days. I hope it works for him.
does turmeric test in a drug test?
As far as I know, I don’t believe so.
no it does not test.
Hi i have a mini pony,who has a very bad stifle problem (pettala lock) i always give per day 1 tsp tumeric around 10 twists of ground pepper corns, with 1 tbsp coconut oil. I decided to test if it was working by not giving it to him for 3 wks, it definitely works ,his legs ended up shocking with out it : ( i make up his maxi soy only 2 cups (dry) then i add tbls tumeric,black pepper,1 tbsp coconut oil,and 1/4cup apple cider vinigar to the dry maxi soy pellets,then i cover with water and stir, leave sit till its nice and fluffy, i feed once a day.
would you consider turmeric for recurring cellulitis? Deep leg wound from kick, slow healing but healthy horse, sound throughout, got stitches, used wonder dust and raw honey, no proud flesh but developed cellulitis, treated w sulpha med, and bute off and on for 2 months. now finishing 2nd round of sulpha med… could turmeric be effective to get rid of cellulitis should it return?
Yes, I would consider Turmeric for this. Also, I’ve made a “mud” for severe insults such as you describe from raw, naturally chelated minerals, honey, calendula oil and various other essential oils. It works amazingly well to relieve infections and I’m sure the addition of Turmeric to this ‘mud’ would also be beneficial. 🙂
Can you tell me please if turmeric is good for liver inflammation and gastric ulcers or would this irritate them as its a spice ?
Turmeric, when used moderately, can be beneficial, yes, for liver inflammation and ulcers. It can be combined with other ingredients such as raw honey that would be soothing for the gut for sure. 🙂
what is considered “moderately”. my 13 year old JRT female has an enlarged liver and she gets about 1/2 teaspoon of golden paste twice a day. I don’t want to do anything to make her liver any worse.
There might be someone else who can answer this better than I but I’d be more inclined to reduce to 1/8th to 1/4 tsp twice a day I think.
More appropriate title of this article should be “Turmeric found more effective than 1/20th of the recommended dose of Phenylbutazone”. Let’s compare apples to apples here….
I am not the author of the article so perhaps attention to that would be more productive? I’ve used Turmeric in place of Bute, personally, with great results. And hard to compare pharmaceuticals to ‘natural’ healers – you are correct however, there are many who try hard to use more ‘natural’ ways with their horses and that’s where Turmeric comes in with good success. 🙂
but at what level, how many MG of turmeric to equal bute dosage? or ten cc of banamine? exactly.. and what turmeric is used, 95 % extract?
I normally avoid commenting on these things but I am so glad to see someone else spot the error.
3gm of curcumin (not tumeric) per kilo body weight has an equal effect on inflammatory arthritis in humans as phenylbutazone.
Tumeric is 3-4% curcumin. Which equals 10kg of tumeric per 100kg of body weight to deliver sufficient curcumin to be as effective as bute.
There are many ‘natural’ ways to help inflammation, but most work by enhancing function of the digestive system and providing nutrition that was lacking.
Great if tumeric works for your situation but making bold, incorrect statements is just dangerous and wrong.
Given bute is such an over used drug in most situations and given credit for fixing issues that would resolve themselves without it in 3-5 days, so is the credit given to natural remedies in the same situations.
I’m all for natural where possible, and owners who need to feel they are ‘doing something’ but titles like this are just irresponsible.
I’ve corrected the headline. Thanks for bringing that to light.
Interesting article, but how much curcumin is given with scoop of Bute?
When I’ve used Turmeric I use in place of Bute. I do not wish to risk gut reactions from artificial chemicals so choose to use more ‘natural’ ways as do others. 🙂 So using Turmeric (with its active property of Curcumin) WITH Bute is rather contra-indicative in that regard?. 😉
Do be careful – like any substance, there are side effects you don’t want. Turmeric has many beneficial aspects, but its very prone to producing kidney stones.
That’s a new one on me. Can you provide cites for this, please? 🙂
I am not aware of any problems with Tumeric causing kidney stones. I would also like the source of this information
I would like citations on this as well. I take turmeric daily for IBS and would like to know if my kidneys are at risk.
I noticed there was no response for clinical info on this issue. I did a quick check and found this study.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/87/5/1262.full
Just for everyone’s info. According to this, tumeric does cause an increased risk for kidney stones. There may be more clinical trials out there – this is only one but I found it very easily.
I really want to use the Tumeric and pepper for my horse. How many mgs per day ? Where can I buy the best Tumeric? I found pill form with 95% curcumin and pepper mixed but I need to know how many mgs each day. Also it was $34 for a bottle of 30 pills. 1 pil a day was people does so im sure id have to use more for my horse. I need to find the best and most cost effective way to feed this to my horse?
The most cost effective and effective in general is to feed the Golden Paste daily. The mgs., of course, vary from product to product and while Curcumin *is* the property that is most effective in turmeric, feeding the raw powder is probably the best way. Nature knows best, right? 😉
Would be interested in finding out more information about turmeric to my 110lb German Shepards and for my self. Needing to know where to go to get a good quality too. Thanks
There is a great resource on Facebook for those who wish to learn more about Turmeric and its applications … just look up the Turmeric Users Group. I think you’ll find that group to be tremendously helpful!
I used tumeric for my old mixed breed dog-rott/Aussie cross. I gave him the same dose as for myself 800-1600 mgs per day. I used capsules broke open and mixed with his canned over dry food. No problem with him eating it. Within 24 hours he showed great improvement. His hips were arthritic. This helped him so much he was running and jumping like a pup again. Also this has has helped the arthritis is my hands. I buy on line at Vita cost.
Hello
I have been using Turmeric for a year for my IR horse as recommended by a vet/ with a speciality in equine nutrition . No mention has been made of the oil or pepper. I use heaping TB spoon daily just dry mixed with other supplements. So here is my question. Do I absolutely need the oil or is it the pepper that you believe activated the turmeric? What do you mean when you say Turmeric is oil soluble. I have been advised by my nutritionist to avoid any additional fat in his diet via oil. Adding fat via flax. Any comments?
Because it is oil soluble (meaning it is broken down for the body’s use with oil) and the piperine in the black pepper is the property that activates the turmeric for use in the body, both are considered necessary for optimal usage by the consumer (horse, in this case). Doesn’t have to be a whole lot of oil — we use Extra Virgin Olive Oil or Coconut oil — a tsp or tbsp would be sufficient and about 5 or 6 grinds of fresh black pepperorn .. that’s all that’s needed. The coconut oil would be highly beneficial for any horse as it has other beneficial properties to it for an overall ‘health boost’. 🙂 I highly doubt that a tsp a day or tbsp a day would cause any detrimental effects for your horse.
And just as a side note — Flax has estrogenic properties to it and may not be the best choice for Omegas as portrayed. It is a strong additive of Omega 3’s and 3’s and 6’s should be balanced well. So I hope you also are feeding an Omega 6 supply of some sort as well as the 3’s in the Flax? 🙂 (Black Oil Sunflower Seeds are good for Omega 6 and adds more fiber to the diet, as well, which is always beneficial for the equine gut.)
Hi, this is a very interesting read that I can’t wait to try! I am just wondering if you know of any way that I could prepare these in say, a container or something a week or so in advance? Would it stay fresh or not be any good? Has anyone tried this?
Yes — there is a “Golden Paste” that can be prepared and kept in the fridge for a couple of weeks or even frozen in ice cube trays in appropriate amts. and kept pretty indefinitely that way. 🙂 Google “Golden Paste” and you’ll find information on this that way. 🙂
Hi, Very interesting article. Thank you. I have been feeding my 14 year old x-large mixed breed dog turmeric and black pepper 2x a day for about a year now for his arthritis. I feed him 1/4 t. w/each meal. (I also use it in cooking as often as possible for us since we are no spring chickens). We also have a rehomed, Amish raised, late teens, Belgain mare with some arthritic changes in her hocks. I don’t know why I never thought of giving it to her. I am going to start though before we get to the bute stage. I kind of like giving the same thing each meal though. Is there any problem with dividing the dose into half and feeding 2x a day as I do with my dog or is it better to feed a large dose 1x a day? Thank you.
I think that splitting the dose to twice a day would be better, actually, than just one a day. 🙂
I have just brought a tub of turmeric, my tb/cb has been on bute for quite a long time. She is 34 and has arthritis. Could you please tell me if I should stop the bute one day and replace it with the turmeric the next day. Or can it be interchanged using one in the morning and the other in the evening. Thanks Linda
Hi Linda .. I’ve be very nervous about gut disturbances with long term use of Bute. I used to use White Willow Bark for my 32 and 40 year olds with great results .. just an ounce a day per horse. Now I have another horse with issues and I will use Turmeric as needed. There are many more issues that go along with artificial drugs than just gut issues.
In case of long term use of Bute I’d probably start substituting Turmeric for the Bute in small increments making a full change over during 5 – 7 days. I’d also be looking into anti-inflammatory feeds (raw veggies, fruits, nuts and seeds as appropriate) and herbs and ditching all processsed feed. If an issue with maintaining weight then I’d use a whole feed such as Crypto Aero or use Alfalfa pellets or soaked cubes. I add coconut oil to the feed for all sorts of great benefits including anti-inflammatory ..
One could also add a drop or two of 100% pure Frankincense oil to the feed daily.
So some things to think about. Hope this is helpful to you. 🙂
Dear Linda,
I have a mare who is 28,
She developed laminitis one summer and I had her on bute to keep the inflammation down, however as I’m sure you know, bute is not good long term.
I switched from bute to tumeric the very next day and it is amazing.
She does far better on the tumeric then the bute did, plus she enjoys it, so no more syringes full of bute and apple sauce.
Her arthritis, uveitis, and inflation in her feet are all cleared up.
Morning, Ashliegh .. thank you so much for your comment. I am curious as to how you feed the tumeric – do you make the Golden Paste and add that? Or, just powdered in the feed? Or, or?
Hi, how do I make the turmeric and pepper paste. My horses are fine but, I personally take turmeric every day and I would love to add it to my horses feed. I make my own horse food. I grind 1/2 cup each of fresh whole flax and sunflower seeds together, I use 8oz of Speedy Beet (non GMO beet pulp soaked), Probios, vitamin & mineral supplement, 1 oz apple cider vinegar, Nanric Biotin (true 100), 1oz natural salt, plus they are on 24 hour Timothy (1 inch hole slow feeder bale bags), and clean filtered water. I am a little silly when it comes to nutrition for all my animals. I love the idea of Turmeric. We actually grow it fresh on the ranch.
Ingredients:
1/2 cup (125 mls/60gms) turmeric powder
1 cup water (250 mls) PLUS 1 cup water in reserve, if needed
1/3 cup (70 mls) cold pressed Olive or Coconut oil
1 1/2 teaspoons freshly ground black pepper (7.5 mls/3gms)
Turmeric Golden Paste – The No 1 turmeric recipe created by Doug English & TUG Facebook Group
Omit pepper if you cannot tolerate it. The absorption of turmeric will still be improved by cooking the paste AND by the inclusion of oil, BUT remember it will be less effective without the pepper.
Place turmeric and water in pan, stirring over gentle heat until you have a thick paste. This should take about 7-10 minutes and you may need to add additional water along the way.
Add the freshly ground pepper and oil AT THE END of cooking. Stir well (a whisk is ideal) to incorporate the oil and allow to cool.
The Golden Paste will keep for 2 weeks, refrigerated
Freeze a portion if you think you have too much to use within two weeks.
Use for Golden Milk, Smoothies, stir into Yoghurt, add to your dinner plate as a condiment… AND don’t forget your pet’s dinner plate or your horse feed … run wild!
How much should I give a horse per day?
You can give 1 tsp of the Golden Paste twice a day. 🙂
can I give the gp along with previcox
Absolutely! But use caution and check with your vet.
My horse is on quarter tablet of previcox daily but trying to reduce to ever other day and have added tumeric to his daily feed. I bought 500 mg capsules and give him have the contents am and other half pm…but not sure if that is correct amount. Help….and u said it is safe wt previcox correct
I’m not sure with taking the 500 mg. capsules with previcox. I use powdered turmeric in bulk. One does need to take caution using turmeric and NSAIDS. Best bet would be to ask your vet on this one.
Can turmeric be given to a pony that is on thyroid meds? Or just give it to her at night and keep the thyroid meds in the morning? Ideas????
She has severe laminitus on off for years and want to get her off of brute.
Yes, Turmeric can be given with meds but with caution. Google “Golden Paste” for recipe as to how to make up Turmeric paste in advance that you can add right to the feed. There are also essential oils that can help if you’re interested as well as homeopathics and Transfer Factor. Please feel free to comment here or email to me: caballus@charter.net if you’d like more information on this. 🙂
Can you give Tumeric for laminitis I cannot find any information on
Absolutely! You need to administer the Turmeric with oil as it is oil soluble. Just a little bit. Add one heaping tbsp of turmeric to a little bit of oil to make a paste or slurp and then about 6 – 8 grinds of fresh black peppercorn. The piperine in the pepper will activate the properties in the turmeric. Can feed with meal twice a day to load up for 3 days then cut back to 1 time a day. That’s how I proceed with this. 🙂
Hi. my cushings pony has just had a bout of laminitus her pracend has been upped due to her levels rising .which caused the lami . Is it safe to give turmeric aswell as the pracend ? I give the meds in the morning . Thank you
Hi Louise — yes, I would think it would be fine to give the Turmeric. 🙂 Turmeric has many different properties to address multiple issues. I would also look into the raw diet for her http://www.thepenzancehorse.com/BASICDIETHANDOUT.pdf
Email this so I can forward to my daughter for her horse. EK
I have a horse with arthritis… How do you get them to eat this? Do you just use regular, store-bought turmeric?
I just mix in with the daily ‘salads’ that I feed. More cost effective than buying it at a store is purchasing it by the pound. You can purchase here very reasonably: https://www.mountainroseherbs.com/?AID=126654
I have an rescued OTTB mare that had foundered badly before I got her and is unfortunately going through it again. I resorted to Bute for a few days as she is in such pain. Can I start this mixture while she still has Bute in her system and what dosage would you recommend for a horse in this kind of discomfort. Thank you.
Good Morning Kathryn. Well, there are several things I would do to address this … adding Turmeric would be one, yes — 1 tbsp mixed with a bit of EVOO or Coconut Oil and about 6 – 8 grinds of fresh black pepper (piperine, in pepper, helps the curcumin to activate and turmeric is oil soluble and I would also give ACONITE 30c homeopathic remedy 3 times a day for just one day. In the meantime, I’d order TRANSFER FACTOR STRESS PACK http://horseconsultonline.com/horse-health/transfer-factor-for-all-animals/ and TF Classic to follow. Do the 7 days of TF Stress Pack then give the TF Classic daily for one month. I’ve noted the link to read about what TF does as well as the link to order it. But most of all, I’d try to determine the CAUSE of the laminitis and change the diet, environment, husbandry – what needed to be changed in order to help heal and prevent a recurring episode. If interested we can do a complete eval of all that and I can help you get her straightened out and on the ‘right path’. Please go back to the link for the TF and then click on HOME to get more info or simply email to me: caballus@charter.net Let’s get your girl through this!!!! 🙂
Have polo ponies that need this remedy. Gonna try it so please include me in the blog updates whatever. Thanx
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Hello, thank you for this information! I’m wondering, a year ago this month, my horse was injured as a coming 3 year old by a trainer (I’ve since found out he ignored my training requests and completely followed his own agenda). Anyhow, my very large (paint x percheron) gelding had a frayed tendon and chipped sesamoid after what I later found out was a forced long canter/gallop around the indoor. The vet wanted to do injections in his fetlock… Which I declined. I’ve been giving him some very expensive herbal formulas from For Love of the Horse, which I do believe has helped tremendously. But they are very expensive. All that is left from the injury at this point are large wind puffs.I’m wondering if turmeric and pepper will help clear out what’s left of the effusion? Also, if you have the on turmeric and pepper for a period of time as a therapeutic supplement, does that diminish its efficacy as a pain reliever in acute situations? Thanks again! Oh, and thank you for explaining that for it to be absorbed properly, that turmeric needs to be taken with pepper.
Hi Adrianne — I can only reply that each horse is an individual and while Turmeric works awesome for so many it’s never a 100% guarantee. (Is there *anything* that is 100% guarantee with horses !!? *grin*) … try it out. It’s safe to use, even long term. That’s all I can say, really. 😀
Interesting study I only have one query though. The test was done on 5 consecutive days post surgery but I have read that turmeric shouldn’t be given for 2-3 days either side of surgery due to it’s effect on the bloods reduced ability to clot making excessive bleeding from the wound a possibility. What are your observations on this is it in fact true?
I don’t know, Jackie … but its certainly something that needs to be researched! Thank you for this information. 😀
Hi, Gwen, Turmeric was recommended to me by a holistic vet tech (retired) who runs a special needs mustang and burro rescue and sanctuary. My horse has inflammation in his hind hocks. He weighs approximately 1250 lbs. The owner of the stables where he is boarded is constantly shooting him up with bute and I do not feel that is good for him. The owner is reluctant to use anything natural/holistic; she feels the conventional way is best. Can the Turmeric be pre-mixed with the pepper by me say for a weeks worth or would it spoil once mixed and not used immediately? I’m afraid this owner of the facility will refuse to mix this up especially for my horse on a daily basis. Also, does this get fed in with his morning feed pellets? What would be the dosage for my horse for a one-time mixture? Does this work immediately or how long does it take to ease his pain. Do you suggest administering this only once per day or twice. He’s on Previcox for his arthritis and pain now. Would there be any adverse reaction between the Previcox and the Turmeric? I’m told he will have to be on Previcox for the rest of his life due to his hind hock arthritis. I’ve read up on Previcox and hate to think of what it will do to him long-term. Do you believe using the Turmeric would be far better than the monthly use of Previcox? Also, what is piperine and what dose is used with the Turmeric and where can I find piperine? Which do you recommend using the plain black pepper or piperine? The Previcox costs me $75.00 for one monthly dose; would the Turmeric and black pepper be cheaper?
Thank you for your help!
Well, Turmeric is about $8 a pound here: http://tinyurl.com/ky4aygo and will last one horse pretty close to one month. I use just plain ground black pepper that I grind myself and Extra Virgin Olive Oil or Coconut oil. Just a ‘glug’. Haven’t figured out my monthly cost but I know its not even close to $75. I don’t see why the turmeric and pepper could not be mixed but I’ve not done that. I feed 1 tbsp of Turmeric with 6 turns of the pepper grinder with that little glug of oil or spoonful (maybe 3 tbsp.) of coconut oil. I generally start off with giving 2X a day for the first 3 days and that back off to the maintenance dose of 1X a day. That’s how I do it, anyway, with good results. 😀
Have a 20 yr old Peruvian/Walker who is I.R. and Cushing’s. Was on Prascend and Thyroid meds. Didn’t do well, kept foundering. Off the meds and now takes MSM..Ani-motion..flax and cinnamon every day. No founder and is the best he has been in years. The ani- motion has turmeric in it.
Sherri, how is your horse doing off pergolide? Are you doing chastetree berries, or..? What dosage was he on? I would love to take the 28 yr old mini off it, if I can convince his owner that it’s do-able! (He’s never foundered, may have had sub-clinical laminitis, and is on seasonal grass. Plus fruits and veggies, MSM, turmeric, and herbs.)
Hi Gwenyth, this is so interesting since Dreamer, the horse boarding at my place will often hurt himself and the owner will automatically put him on Bute. Do you know what quantity of turmuric we should give a horse who weighs 1100 lbs?
I use 1 TBSP daily with a bit of olive oil mixed (turmeric is oil soluble) and about 6 grinds of fresh black pepper (Tumeric taken orally is not well absorbed unless taken with black pepper or piperine, a constituent of black pepper) …
For an acute situation you could give 2X day for 3 days and then back off to 1X day. That’s what I do.
I am so glad you mentioned WHY the black pepper is used. I never use pepper. Still have a box I got in 51.
I could not fin bulk on the Mountain Rose site. Will try the other one.